DT1
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Post by DT1 on Sept 26, 2005 12:03:18 GMT 4
On 9/25/05 It was reported in the Associated Press in an article entitled"China wants only"healthy"news on web". Interested,I clicked on the story to learn that one hundred million people had Their Internet freedom(such as it was,)taken from them overnight.The Chinese government will will only allow "healthy and civilized"news from this day forward."The new rules take effect immediately and will standardize the management of news and information in the country" The official Chinese news agency,Xinhua,said sunday.they went on to say that"The sites are prohibited from spreading news and information that goes against state security and public interest." They are also in the process of removing unregistered web sites and blogs. In tandem with these measures,the Chinese government has shut down thousands of cybercafes,the only computer acces for many Chinese. The arrest of "cyber-dissidents"goes on day and night,the figures impossible to know. Please follow the link to learn more: news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050925/ap_on_hi_te/china_internet Millions of minds have just been locked away in the darkness of Not Learning Things. Uncounted opportunities for a better life just...Taken from them. Better them than us? They are our brothers and sisters. Oh,and um,WER'E NEXT... More on that later. Let's talk about this,my friends.
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james
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Post by james on Sept 27, 2005 8:06:02 GMT 4
You have to give China credit for being honest about it . The management of news and information in many country's is old as dirt take a look at the Patriot act the same thing and worse with a kid glove. We all live under the barrel of a gun. It's just depends how much spin you put on it, I myself much prefer the straight forward method. "We are going to lie to you and thats the way it is." Great fantastic thank you for being straight forward and now that where all on the same page the people can make informed decisions regarding their lives and what can be done to improve them. A government cannot extinguish the burning desire of the people to know the truth and by attempting to quench it are in fact throwing gasoline on the fire. Great things will come from this as the people of China will stand up against this oppression and demand change. Together we stand divided we fall I think the Chinese government fails to realize they just united the whole country, under one cause that it a huge mistake. James
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hagall
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Post by hagall on Sept 28, 2005 15:49:44 GMT 4
We all hope and pray for an honest government. The unfortunate truth is, the majority want our governments to be like enlightened parents, shielding the populace from the dangers and pitfalls of the truths we are not prepared to face. Douglas Adams wrote: "Protect me from knowing waht i don't need to know. Protect me from even knowing there are things to know that I don't know. Protect me from knowing that I decided not to know about the things I decided not to know about. Amen"............................... "Lord, Lord, Lord[\b], Protect me from the consequences of the above prayer." (Mostly Harmless, Book 5 of Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy.) When you look around at the majority of the population, as Adams so aptly put it, the first part of the prayer is what they really think in their hearts. And governments seem to take up the responsibility of the second part. As you say James, at least China is straightfroward about it. The Chinese government is attempting to protect its people from the things they don't want to know. However, those who seek wisdom and knowledge, those who find a strength and conviction in their knowledge will always find a way to not only access, but also disseminate the truths they believe to be self evident. History shows us that together we stand and shall overcome. If a truth has its own self evidence then it will shine through no matter the opposition, and damning testimony against it. Most of the nations in the world have had at least one revolution, where the general populace have risen up to deny the lies and corruption within its leadership. And by no means have we seen an end to revolutions and uprisings, in fact I believe we are approaching revolution on a global scale.
James G.
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cmr
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Post by cmr on Nov 2, 2005 1:20:14 GMT 4
The Chinese government will will only allow "healthy and civilized"news from this day forward."The new rules take effect immediately and will standardize the management of news and information in the country"
It is interesting to note that in America the supposed freest country in the world Google saves all your searches and email indefinitely as does Yahoo, AOL and the other big players it is an information war, with this information that they freely share with homeland security and others it is possible to profile you down to your fillings this is all done with DAT files or non expiring cookies. where you go where you been and whom you've conversed with is all there per URL info.
This is all legal and within their privacy disclosure I implore you to look in to these issues, they are very easily solved with no more than a little research.
CCleaner.com, Windows washer several other programs can clean up your tracks and your cookies with no hassle, may I suggest bleeepingcomputer.com or geekstogo.com both excellent free reliable resources for security and computer related problems.
I might add that as stated in both privacy disclosures and when you register Pro boards nor Fountainhead ever violate your privacy with this type of buggery,they both are all about Freedom of speech.
Good day people, be safe, be smart, be informed, be Free
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DT1
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Post by DT1 on Feb 8, 2006 14:36:22 GMT 4
"I got a bad feelin' about this..."Didn't I say more on that later? Here we are,5 months down the road- and it's later than you think.... Please visit www.thiscantbehappening.net/ Is NSA Snooping China Business Blowback? As far back as the Nixon administration, American business and politicians of both parties have repeated the mantra that doing business with the police state of China was a good thing because with the wonders of free enterprise inevitably would come other freedoms. The argument, long touted by conservative economists like Milton Friedman, was always suspect, since the people making it have never evidenced any interest in or concern about freedom themselves, and since their real motivation was so obviously making money in China, not promoting freedom. Now it turns out that far from spreading freedom to China, American business's growing links with China's military/fascist regime are having a perverse kind of blowback, an insidious infiltration of fascist control techniques made in China and transferred to the United States. It is becoming increasingly clear that the policing of China’s Internet--actually a gigantic nation-wide intranet, with controlled nodes and firewalls with the outside world--was designed and is being operated with the active and enthusiastic assistance of all of the major Internet companies in the U.S.: Google, Yahoo, Microsoft, Cisco Systems, Skype, etc. These companies have built the technologies and provided the assistance China's government has needed to allow it to block words and concepts from view in China, and, equally serious, to track down and arrest those who spread ideas of freedom and resistance. By providing those American companies with a market for such anti-democratic technologies, China has encouraged and financed the research that almost certainly has also been opportunistically adopted by our own increasingly authoritarian regime. We've just learned that the National Security Agency was authorized by President Bush to spy at will on Americans without any need to go to a judge and show probable cause, and in fact to use a "vacuum-cleaner" approach of monitoring key words to spy on the electronic messages of tens of thousands and perhaps millions of citizens. That is, Bush asked the NSA to start doing exactly what the Chinese government does to users of the Internet in China. Does anyone doubt that in doing all this, the NSA was making use of the very control and monitoring technologies that were developed by the likes of Microsoft, Google and Yahoo for use in China? Of course that’s what it did. That's how the military-industrial-security complex operates, via a nexus with corporate America.We can be sure that when it had a job to do, the NSA turned to the experts in the field. And for this, we can thank China and the American advocates of "free trade" with repressive regimes. Tom Friedman's flat world will indeed be flat, with no unorthodox ideas allowed to stand out, if China ends up being the model market for the American companies that are building the internet of the future.
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DT1
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Post by DT1 on Feb 18, 2006 15:06:35 GMT 4
I just gotta get over to truthout.com more often... Electronic Wall By Pierre Haski Libération Wednesday 15 February 2006 We've known for a very long time that no technology in and of itself brings either freedom or oppression. Nonetheless, this illusion has existed since the very beginnings of the Internet, the illusion that allowed us to believe that access to the diversity of information available on the Net would be enough to bring down the last remaining dictatorships. The leaders in Beijing have just proved the contrary by erecting a gigantic Electronic Great Wall of China. In the speed race between an Internet that is effectively a vector of freedom and a cyber-police endowed with the latest technology, the game is far from over. Less expected was that the big Western companies would aid the Chinese government in that effort: simultaneously by procuring for it the technology that equips its cyber-police and allows it to keep tens of millions of Internet users under surveillance and by straight-out supplying the information that allows people to be sent to jail, as well as by censoring themselves according to the desires of the Chinese Communist leaders. The little test we performed on Google and Yahoo search engines in China and in France is revealing in this regard: it would be amusing if it didn't mean quite simply that these giants of the Internet, the names of which have become synonymous with modernity and success, are capable of anything in order to get a share of the Chinese e-cake. A strong reaction in the United States would have been necessary to get these companies to talk about rules of the game. This business concerns us all - as users of this technology and of the services of these omnipresent giants - so every Internet user is not made complicit in the low blows delivered in China.
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michelle
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Post by michelle on Jun 6, 2006 16:01:36 GMT 4
UK Journalists Call For Yahoo Boycott The Union Representing Journalists In The UK And Ireland Has Called On Its 40,000 Members To Boycott Yahoo In Protest At The Company's Reported Assistance To The Chinese Authorities In Cracking Down On Pro-Democracy ActivistsSaturday 03 June 2006, 1:49 Makka Time, 22:49 GMT Yahoo is accused of aiding a Chinese crackdown The union representing journalists in the UK and Ireland has called on its 40,000 members to boycott Yahoo in protest at the company's reported assistance to the Chinese authorities in cracking down on pro-democracy activists. The National Union of Journalists said it had sent a letter on Friday to Dominique Vidal, Yahoo Europe's vice-president, protesting the internet company's alleged actions in China. Chinese courts have said that Yahoo supplied the authorities with information that helped them identify, prosecute and jail writers advocating democracy. "The NUJ regards Yahoo's actions as a completely unacceptable endorsement of the Chinese authorities," wrote Jemima Kiss, chairman of the NUJ new media council, in the letter to Vidal. Mary Osako, a Yahoo spokesperson, said the US-based company believes it must conduct business in each country in ways that comply with local laws. "Let us make clear that we condemn punishment of any activity internationally recognised as free expression, whether that punishment takes place in China or anywhere else in the world," Osako said. Terry Semel, Yahoo's chairman and chief executive, said at the company's annual shareholder meeting last week that the company had no choice but to comply with local laws and did not have the power to change Chinese policy alone. CollusionYahoo has been accused by the NUJ and other journalism groups of providing information that led to an eight-year prison term for Li Zhi for discussing pro-democracy issues in a Web forum. The company has also been reported as helping to identify Shi Tao, who was sentenced to prison for 10 years for forwarding a government e-mail to the foreign press. The NUJ also accuses Yahoo of providing records that led to the imprisonment of Jiang Lijun - who was sentenced to four years in jail for writing articles advocating democracy. SOURCE:Aljazeera: tinyurl.com/lnqtbRelated: Links at source: Yahoo unit blamed for China arrest Yahoo! blamed for writer's jailing Microsoft, Yahoo to link messengers
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