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Post by Anwaar on Sept 19, 2005 11:28:38 GMT 4
Anwaar, this is a great idea, not unique except for involving people of conscience from all over the world, maybe we can make things happen, with mutual respect and open minds, thanks again for your hard work and determination to make this world a better place, excellent job! Exactly. And we do not need to follow an ism for that nor belong to any Left/Right/progressive/conservative/liberal etc. faction for that. A point that I have argued in my article 'Who Shall Inherit the Earth?' And if our thinking does fall into one of these categories, or some other yet unheard of category, so be it.
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Post by jay paulson on Sept 20, 2005 18:35:17 GMT 4
I've been looking at this thread, and the previous one, and then at many others on this delicious forum and now realize how important these threads are to guide us through the labyrinth.
Oh, if only these threads could be woven into a beautiful fabric--or at least a useful one. Instead of ending in a tangle the kittens will play with.
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Post by Anwaar on Sept 20, 2005 18:56:36 GMT 4
Yes Jay yes. Let us keep up our efforts.
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DT1
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Post by DT1 on Sept 20, 2005 19:23:20 GMT 4
Lugnut,my friend, Allow me to belabor the obvious:GWB and his criminal gang do NOT represent the American people.He has kicked us in the teeth harder than China ever could.I would burn a chair he has sat in and salt the ground he walks on.He has stolen this nation(twice),decimated the environment,military and economy for generations to come,murdered countless thousands for pure(He tried to kill my dad) spite,and d**n near destroyed everything that made me proud of America.He has the midas touch in reverse:Everything he touches turns to s**t.As far as I'm concerned, there is no hell hot enough for him and his crew of neocon cutthroats.the number of people clamouring for wholesale housecleaning in D.C. grows daily.Even the lifetime republicans are ready for regime change. May this never happen to your country.
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Post by jay paulson on Sept 20, 2005 20:44:17 GMT 4
I beg to disagree, in part, w/ both lugnut and downtrodden.
On the one hand, I'm not certain that the riddance of America and Americans by Chinese violence, or any human violence, will be a good thing.
On the other hand, Bush and the sad behavior of his masters, are precisely the American people incarnate.
Any cohesive group that endures for any length of time forms, in a certain sense, a being, an entity, that has impact, duties, obligations, rights and so on. The person, the human being, who is part of that group assumes everything the group assumes. Become a hermit on a desert island and you're free of the group.
Just as the German human beings produced Hitler, the American human beings have produced the present American dictator. Look carefully at American history before you dismiss that statement.
Just as there are physical laws that socalled scientists of today are trying to discover and understand, there are psychological laws that some humans in our 10,000 year history have tried to understand and communicate to their neighbors.
So the Amercan people will have to, like the German people, understand what they did. And then understand what it is appropriate to do about their problem. (I have to confess that I don't think any kind of violence will bring a successful solution to the problem.)
Of course if they don't understand and solve the problem, I suppose there are other kinds of laws that we know nothing about that might apply.
................ There's an old saying, from Eastern Europe I think, to the effect that every statement a person makes is at the same time partly true and partly false. So look for the truth and error in all statements.
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Post by michelle on Sept 20, 2005 21:04:37 GMT 4
Jay, We have all lived previous lives as different races, genders, and nationalities. Much of what you say is true. Yes the US government is a product of the American mind set, history, and way of life. However, we all have added to the collective thought forms which have created ills and evils through out the world. The world will heal when each of us, no matter where you are from, heal our our own dark sides. All the enlighten ones before us, tried to show us the way. We will listen to their messages now, and work for personal transformation in ourselves and lives? The world will heal one soul at a time.
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Post by jay paulson on Sept 20, 2005 22:28:20 GMT 4
I found this information a while ago. It can be found on a number of web sites on the internet. If it's true it might make some Americans proud, others not so proud. Some might want to investigate the amount of Bush dollars in various banks throughout the world, too.
"Mr Bush has direct descents from William the Conqueror, Henry II and Charles II, according to Burke's Peerage. He also scores better than his father, who lost the office of president to Bill Clinton, because of his mother's well-to-do ancestors. Barbara Pierce Bush's royal connections include French Bourbon and several Scandinavian monarchs, as well as members of the Russian, Spanish and German monarchies."
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Post by michelle on Sept 20, 2005 22:51:41 GMT 4
We have always been controlled by ruling bloodlines. Because of this, there is no difference in political parties. I believe it is around 37 presidents who were/are related through their bloodlines. Our candidates are choosen by the powers that be who run the affairs of the world. Every now and then we have a visionary, who tries to break from the system [especially from the banks], but they have been removed or killed. If you look back you will see this. I will post more on that later. Check out this link and you will see that John Kerry and Bush have common ancestors. www.geocities.com/covertmatrix/bushkerry.txt
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Post by MKabir Malik on Sept 21, 2005 23:26:32 GMT 4
Wish we could edit our own posts.
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DT1
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Post by DT1 on Sept 22, 2005 0:03:37 GMT 4
You can edit,my friend. Just click on "modify",in the top right hand corner. if you find it out of context,or whatever.(this will happen when there is high traffic). Cool, yes? Don't feel bad-It's kinda small&hard to see,and wer'e all new to this. ;D
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Post by james on Sept 22, 2005 9:16:35 GMT 4
Brothers and sisters the world desperately needs your guidance and knowledge. The media has made an art of lying and deception and through no fault of their own the general population believes what its told as they have been feed this deception from birth.
It is up to us to gather the facts of the media's lies and present them in a non biased, undeniable time line.
#1 who owns the media, and what are their motivations
#2 who profits from war,national disasters,empire
#3 who owns the banks and stands to profit via empire
Now this might be old news to you but to the rest of the sheep they don't have a clue maybe an inkling somethings not right but no undeniable concrete proof.
So it is up to us to present these fact's in a simple non conspiracy way. The facts are out there we just need to put them together and present them to the public.
Could you please post any links to afore mentioned questions or any other facts supporting the media hijacking of Truth it is up to us don't expect the media to grow a conscience as money is their God.
"And the Truth shall set you Free" That is an undinable fact. show the people the facts and they shall rise to the occasion, it is up to you and me Please realize the time is now!
Empire can only exist in the absence of the Truth it is up us brothers and sisters.
May Peace be with you. James
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Anwaar
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Post by Anwaar on Sept 22, 2005 14:24:56 GMT 4
And to take James's message farther, please suggest how to increase the membership of this forum? We need to spread the word of the forum far and wide. How do we do that?
Please suggest.
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Post by Jon on Sept 23, 2005 8:47:37 GMT 4
I notice a bias here from Americans thinking that the answer lies in our behavior. What is happening in this would is nothing new, read the Bible, read Ancient Greek and Roman histories and teaching, read Ancient Chinese Histories, this willingness for people to give their individual power to others, allowing themselves to be enslaved is the history of the World, present politics is just the story of a new cast of characters running the same old game. The real answer to all problems come down to teaching people they have a personal responsibility to themselves, their families and communities, and this responsibility means being educated, and not relinquishing your personal authority and responsibilities to any other person, group, organization or country, that does not have a strong binding contract on both sides, about responsibilities as well as rights. For instance the USA government, we allow them to rule us in the US, without any responsibilities that carry a true consequence for not keeping them, we should be able to fire these people when they don't perform. Never was it intended to give them superior rights to any other citizens, except by their own intentions, which we went along with. I chalk this up equally to ignorance and laziness, and its really pretty much the same everywhere in the world, so we need to figure out how to get people to not just accept what someone tells you you're entitled to, but to be involved in the process of creating wealth, communities and infrastructures, indeed in their own governance.
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Post by DT1 on Oct 6, 2005 10:26:46 GMT 4
Jon, your post was,intelligent,and very well said. I read it twice and really thought about it,and I have to agree. Please post often-your keen thought is most welcome here. Thanks for sharing.
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Post by Conscientious Objector on Oct 10, 2005 19:41:53 GMT 4
I must say this is a wonderful addition to Fountainhead an oasis where Truth exists and falsehood is exposed to the light of reality. malakandsky.blogspot.com/So much to chose from what a wonderful place to relax and reflect on the spin of the day, Thank you for the opportunity to meet with other's in such an atmosphere,may I make a frank suggestion in such an environment it is conductive to the thread to allow guests&members the chance to contribute to the discussion in a timely fashion slow down a little let the flow of humanity contribute to the atmosphere and community will evolve slowly but naturally, literally you have a diamond in the rough let it polish it's self as these things do. Have a good day, many blessing's you all have done well.
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